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debluevoid asked: Hey I found a really good article about relations between atheists and christians crackedcom/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on_p3 (this probably applies to all religions) Tell me what you think?
I agree with the overall message of the article. However, generally speaking, I believe the author of the article over-exaggerates things about atheists to make his point. For example, in the first part about both sides being able to do terrible things in the name of either, he mentions wars in the name of religion. Then he continues to describe Stalin and Mao using the people as examples of atheism.
The difference is that people do not declare wars in the name of atheism. While countless wars have been declared in the name of Christianity, Islam, and others. Both atheists and religious people are capable of evildoing, but only religious people do it in the name of their religion. How often have you ever heard a war start because one country was atheistic and wanted to wipe out religion?
Another example that really bugs me in here is this:
“Atheists, even if you reject the idea of God completely and claim to live according only to the cold logic of the physical sciences, you all still live as if the absolute morality of some magical lawgiver were true…Even though there’s no “wrong” molecule floating in the air and there’s no “justice” element on the Periodic Table…[just] an invisible ideal that everybody is aware of and knows they should obey.”Ok, so because we have morals apparently we behave as if there IS a God. Did it ever occur to the author that maybe we have morals because our parents taught us to be good people? Maybe our environments have presented us with what’s right and what’s wrong. It has nothing to do with God. And I guarantee you that we all don’t live based on an “absolute” morality. Some peoples’ idea of right and wrong are different from each other. There’s nothing absolute about it.
I could go on and on, but simply put, I agree with the message that we all should attempt to avoid being total jackasses to one another, but I believe the author has some misconceived notions about atheism and thus, don’t really recommend the article.
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[I]f I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul.
Isaac Asimov (via wewerewild)Posted on August 18, 2011 via 8:47pm with 11 notes
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Cretins
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This is exactly what my rant earlier was about.
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atheism
Not necessarily willing to deny the first two parts. But what kind of “weekly gatherings” do atheists have?
Also, I’d say there’s no way to prove God doesn’t exist, and I’m pretty sure that most atheists would agree with me. That being said, is the most probable thought process to believe in a magical, all-knowing all-powerful being? Of course not, if you can’t prove something is true you shouldn’t claim that it’s true. In the case of atheism, it is a claim that God is improbable and thus we don’t believe in it. Anyone with any logical train of thought knows that the existence of any God is an improbable event with next to evidence for it. There is no faith involved in not believing in God.
We don’t claim to know there is no God. However, if there is no proof to prove something is true, then you assume it is false until proof is found. That is the scientific method.







